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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 13, 2005 7:44:38 GMT -5
Got some info on the powerdyne kit I have been looking at. Seems the head unit, XB-1A, can supply up to 13 PSI. Thats a lot more boost than I was expecting for a cheaper kit and not too far off from the 16PSI that I was wanting to run.
One of my first questions, is it ok to push the head unit to its maximum PSI limit? Could it possibly cause some problems by doing so?
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Post by 1bad2k2ta on Sept 13, 2005 8:44:41 GMT -5
Got some info on the powerdyne kit I have been looking at. Seems the head unit, XB-1A, can supply up to 13 PSI. Thats a lot more boost than I was expecting for a cheaper kit and not too far off from the 16PSI that I was wanting to run. One of my first questions, is it ok to push the head unit to its maximum PSI limit? Could it possibly cause some problems by doing so? The biggest problems with PowerDynes is that they are internally belt driven. While this makes them quieter, it also makes them tend to not last as long and they won't hold up to high boost pressures. I would be surprised if it would make 13psi, and if it does, I would be more surprised if it lasted very long. Most guys running PowerDynes only run about 6-7 psi. |
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Post by metalbeast on Sept 13, 2005 8:56:49 GMT -5
Is Powerdyne the only manufacturer that makes a SC kit for that engine?
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Post by Fire67 on Sept 13, 2005 9:14:24 GMT -5
That Powerdyne head unit (XB-1A) is not internally belt driven, its their only head unit that has internal gear drive. It also requires engine oil to lube the gears. That head unit will support 13psi on a small V8.... Docspeed, arent you looking to S.C. a 6cyl engine?
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 13, 2005 13:24:21 GMT -5
That Powerdyne head unit (XB-1A) is not internally belt driven, its their only head unit that has internal gear drive. It also requires engine oil to lube the gears. That head unit will support 13psi on a small V8.... Docspeed, arent you looking to S.C. a 6cyl engine? Yes a 6 banger. I must have looked at the head units incorrectly. The unit I am looking at doesn't use any oil lines so I guess I am referring to the unit 1bad2kta is talking about. |
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 13, 2005 13:28:11 GMT -5
Is Powerdyne the only manufacturer that makes a SC kit for that engine? No but one of the cheapest kits. I want to get my feet wet instead of spending alot of money for a SC kit right off the bat. Here is the kit I am looking at. [ftp]http://www.proficientperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=powerdyne&Product_Code=K10525-101[/ftp] Pay no attention to the price, I can get it from summitracing for $2500. |
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 13, 2005 13:34:53 GMT -5
Got some info on the powerdyne kit I have been looking at. Seems the head unit, XB-1A, can supply up to 13 PSI. Thats a lot more boost than I was expecting for a cheaper kit and not too far off from the 16PSI that I was wanting to run. One of my first questions, is it ok to push the head unit to its maximum PSI limit? Could it possibly cause some problems by doing so? The biggest problems with PowerDynes is that they are internally belt driven. While this makes them quieter, it also makes them tend to not last as long and they won't hold up to high boost pressures. I would be surprised if it would make 13psi, and if it does, I would be more surprised if it lasted very long. Most guys running PowerDynes only run about 6-7 psi. There are some S10 guys running 11 PSI with this belt driven system and seem to be happy with it. Powerdyne just upped their warranty to three years which is good news to me. The only complaint that I have heard is they keep blowing the bonnet off with anything more than 9psi. Sounds like an engineering issue, nothing some metal straps couldn't fix. |
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Post by Fire67 on Sept 13, 2005 14:57:28 GMT -5
Is Powerdyne the only manufacturer that makes a SC kit for that engine? No but one of the cheapest kits. I want to get my feet wet instead of spending alot of money for a SC kit right off the bat. Here is the kit I am looking at. [ftp]http://www.proficientperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=powerdyne&Product_Code=K10525-101[/ftp] Pay no attention to the price, I can get it from summitracing for $2500. Thats the BD-11a, it does not use oil and has a kevlar cog belt inside the case. Max boost for that unit on a stock LT1 is 9psi... I could see it putting 11-13 psi into that 6-banger. I understand wanting to get your feet wet first, and thats probably the best kit to start with... Thats the same head unit that I used to run on my car before the drive belt shredded inside the case  Then I found a deal on the Procharger and the lil powerdyne has been sitting in a box ever since. |
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Post by metalbeast on Sept 13, 2005 19:57:19 GMT -5
I have drove Tommy's S10 a few times. He told me to open it up on this long straight road in front of his house last Saturday night. The thing is pretty freaking stout, even with a 3.08 rear. He and I plan on going to Atlanta Dragway (which the little turd lives litterally 5 minutes from) to get a baseline run. I will be filming the action when he debuts her on the track. With, gears, boltons and the boost, I see this being a real beast!
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 14, 2005 6:08:08 GMT -5
No but one of the cheapest kits. I want to get my feet wet instead of spending alot of money for a SC kit right off the bat. Here is the kit I am looking at. [ftp]http://www.proficientperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=powerdyne&Product_Code=K10525-101[/ftp] Pay no attention to the price, I can get it from summitracing for $2500. Thats the BD-11a, it does not use oil and has a kevlar cog belt inside the case. Max boost for that unit on a stock LT1 is 9psi... I could see it putting 11-13 psi into that 6-banger. I understand wanting to get your feet wet first, and thats probably the best kit to start with... Thats the same head unit that I used to run on my car before the drive belt shredded inside the case Then I found a deal on the Procharger and the lil powerdyne has been sitting in a box ever since. Can replace the broken belt inside the case? What are you plans for your broken powerdyne? |
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Post by Fire67 on Sept 14, 2005 9:14:38 GMT -5
Thats the BD-11a, it does not use oil and has a kevlar cog belt inside the case. Max boost for that unit on a stock LT1 is 9psi... I could see it putting 11-13 psi into that 6-banger. I understand wanting to get your feet wet first, and thats probably the best kit to start with... Thats the same head unit that I used to run on my car before the drive belt shredded inside the case Then I found a deal on the Procharger and the lil powerdyne has been sitting in a box ever since. Can replace the broken belt inside the case? What are you plans for your broken powerdyne? The whole thing can be rebuilt for like $350-75 which includes replacing the belt and all the sealed bearings. That paying 928 motorsports to do it, if you have a press it can be done for $120-50... If you want the head unit (Probably all you could use from the kit) make me an offer. Otherwise its just sitting in a box were it'll probably be for a while. |
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 14, 2005 11:25:51 GMT -5
PM sent.  |
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 14, 2005 14:10:47 GMT -5
Let me move on to my next interest, intercoolers. I want to use an OEM intercooler, maybe one I could find at a Junk yard. What cars or trucks came with an intercooler so I will know what to be searching for. I figure that I can get an intercooler from a junkyard cheaper than buying an aftermarket unit.
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Post by Fire67 on Sept 16, 2005 10:43:20 GMT -5
A friend of mine is turbo charging a pickup truck... He went to a junkyard and pulled intercoolers from various diesel trucks(commercial), a turbo'd Audi, and some other cars. He ended up only using one intercooler from a semi-truck that he cut down to size and welded new end tanks onto... It's huge!!! Its a two core, but the cores are tall enough that when welded up the entire cooler covers his radiator completely... This thing used to be 4 cores tall!!!
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Post by DocSpeed on Sept 16, 2005 11:58:20 GMT -5
Geez, that is huge! Are those air to air intercoolers?
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Post by Fire67 on Sept 16, 2005 14:24:35 GMT -5
Yep, air to air... He's gonna be pumping air through it with a Precision Turbo 88mm ceramic ball bearing hair dryer. And its all sitting in the ugliest 87 Chevy pickup Ive ever seen.
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Then I found a deal on the Procharger and the lil powerdyne has been sitting in a box ever since.