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Post by momacoz on Oct 10, 2005 13:53:12 GMT -5
a friend gave us a s/c off his vette, and i want
to put it on my bird. any suggestions? i want
it to work correctly. and i really hope that we
dont have to cut the hood, to make it fit. now
i know i have said before that my husband is
an ASE & GM Master Tech. but i want to do as
much of the work as he will let me.
so here is the question...has anyone here
every put a s/c on a stock LS1??
yes we are starting to mod my bird. finally!!
when he drove it on sat. he realized that my
clutch is gone. but i have been telling him this
for 2 months now.
i guess it took him driving it to listen to me.
any help would be apreciated. thank you.
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Post by Fire67 on Oct 10, 2005 15:24:15 GMT -5
For starters, I dont think the bracketry for the vette will fit your birds engine compartment...
So you'll probably have to find the correct bracketry and plumbing, or even make your own.
Get some appropriately sized injectors, and a good dyno tune.
I'd try to find a used kit from the same manufacturer that included the same head unit... If you find one cheap with a blown head-unit, it would be good for the parts needed.
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Post by momacoz on Oct 10, 2005 19:52:23 GMT -5
thanks justin. im just trying to gather as much info as
possible before i go thru with it.
**another question? which one would run better on my car,
a s/c or turbocharger? im getting different ideas for modding
my birdy. i already have the suspension parts written down,
just waiting to order them.
im just trying to get some others ideas/opinions before i get
to the trial and error stage.
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Post by 94m6hardtopz on Oct 11, 2005 2:59:10 GMT -5
just put the blower on it. its less hassle then a turbo. ive had both on mustangs, and the turbo is a nightmare to tune with a stock pcm.
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Post by Fire67 on Oct 11, 2005 8:43:34 GMT -5
just put the blower on it. its less hassle then a turbo. ive had both on mustangs, and the turbo is a nightmare to tune with a stock pcm.  Not to mention that a turbo kit would be a PIA to install, maintain, or just work around. A turbocharged setup is always capable of more torque and HP... To me, its not worth the extra power for the extra money and headaches from working around an extremely tight engine bay. Your stock pcm cannot really control the fueling for a turbo correctly without the use of a boost referenced fuel pressure requlator... The problem is that your stock PCM cannot see the boost in order to provide fueling that is in proportion to boost. Now, Im an LT1 guy... But Ive heard that HPtuners' new software will tune your stock PCM to run in speed density with an upgraded MAP sensor to read boost pressure... In that case, it would be able to control the fueling nicely. Im just not sure of how correct I am on that. Just consider what your goals for the car are, IMHO- Blowers are much easier to work around(nicely packaged), much easier to tune for, and more reliable(as long as its not a powerdyne). |
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Post by momacoz on Oct 11, 2005 16:44:37 GMT -5
from the sounds of it, i'd be better off with NOS.
less work and less trouble to install.
but the Z06 clutch got ordered today. cant wait.
when he gets it put in, i will see a big difference.
1 week im running 8.9's and the next im running 9.4's.
this is getting old with 1 week i run great times and the
next sucky times. but its definitly time to quicken her up.
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Post by momacoz on Oct 11, 2005 21:34:10 GMT -5
well i guess i can just forget the whole d@mn thing.
my dads friend gave him a set of heads and a cam for an LS1 engine.
but mark said no to putting them in. and while i was blowing the clutch
and tranny tonight, he ran a 7.93. and then told me to just relax and he'll
fix it this weekend. yeah right. but im the one whose been pushing him to
get his car to go faster. well i guess its time to call my real dad in texas.
he'll do it for me and i'll out run everything out there. oh, wait, we found
out tonight that the track has been sold. they are going to build homes on that land.
now if i want to race, i have to go to Douglas, Ga. yes, i am in a very pissed mood.
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Post by 1bad2k2ta on Oct 11, 2005 21:42:40 GMT -5
well i guess i can just forget the whole d@mn thing. my dads friend gave him a set of heads and a cam for an LS1 engine. but mark said no to putting them in. and while i was blowing the clutch and tranny tonight, he ran a 7.93. and then told me to just relax and he'll fix it this weekend. yeah right. but im the one whose been pushing him to get his car to go faster. well i guess its time to call my real dad in texas. he'll do it for me and i'll out run everything out there. oh, wait, we found out tonight that the track has been sold. they are going to build homes on that land. now if i want to race, i have to go to Douglas, Ga. yes, i am in a very pissed mood. Why won't he install the heads and cam if they are free? |
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Post by momacoz on Oct 12, 2005 7:28:48 GMT -5
im not sure. i think he's afraid that ill out run him.
most of the older guys at the track already have told im that i drive and handle the cars better than him. i think he's jealous.
but im going to talk to my dad today and see if he will bring me the parts, i'll do it myself. and im going to get my sponsers anyway.
then we will see who has the better car. well, i talked to my dad and im going to get in touch with my real father,(who still nhra drag races), im going to have them help me build a better engine.
this thing will be all motor. no NOS, no s/c, no t/c.
"then my husband better watch out". i'll have the 2 best mechanics in the world working on my car, plus me. when i get my mind set on something, it will happen or i will die trying. now its time to call my aunt & uncle to see if how much $$ they are going to send to sponser me and my bird. b.t.w. the Zo6 clutch will be here this weekend.
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Post by Fire67 on Oct 12, 2005 9:17:03 GMT -5
Sounds good... Too bad you decided against going forced induction. One of these days, I will build a blown LS1... They just seem to make so much power with so little work, compared to my LT1, its just not fair. I was at my favorite shop this past weekend, they had a customers '04 GTO putting 550 to the rollers with a cam only LS1 running 9psi from a D1-sc. I mean other than the exhaust, blower, and cam, this thing was STOCK... The only difference in his mods from mine is the cam and he's making 100hp more than me  |
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Post by momacoz on Oct 12, 2005 11:44:12 GMT -5
this is just a list of what i am going to do. bigger air lid, maf w/smooth bellows, all
the suspension bolt ons, cam, heads, better roller rockers and push rods, performance
fuel pump, and my dad said something about the heads being .40 over,(cant remember
exactly what he said), jet hot headers w/ no cats, but keeping my single exhalust,
(i like fooling people who dont know about it). everyone thinks its a 6 cyl. because of the single exhaulst, until i open the hood. then they freak out. the Z06 clutch for now and a
new m-6 tranny. this is just for starters. most night i run 8.95-9.15, with these items i should
be able to take a full second off. my husband tends to forget what kind of mechanics run thru my blood. me and both my dads are on a roll now. can you say grudge match when its done.
well, now its time to go online and hunt down the rest of the above parts.
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Post by momacoz on Oct 15, 2005 21:55:13 GMT -5
well the Z06 clutch went in today. as well as another tranny.
feels different and when i go to down shift, it feels like 2nd
gear is getting hunbg up. not sure whats going on with that.
but she does shift better now.
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Post by Fire67 on Oct 17, 2005 8:30:24 GMT -5
Why did you change the tranny?
Glad the clutch worked out for you.
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Post by momacoz on Oct 17, 2005 20:58:14 GMT -5
bent shift forks, not to mention
the 3rd & 5th syncronizers were gone.
now its a little hard to down shift from 3rd to 2nd.
but she hooks and flies now.
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Post by Fire67 on Oct 18, 2005 8:41:36 GMT -5
Well that sucks about the hard down shift, but upshifts are all that matter on the strip!
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Post by momacoz on Oct 18, 2005 16:35:09 GMT -5
mark seems to think that the tranny just say for to long.
and the more i drive her the more the down shifting will
loosen up. but he is going to check it again. it feels almost
like the shifter is hitting something, maybe the stoppers.
but as for the motor work, my real father is still a NHRA drag
racer and he said he will help me with making her put out more
HP without a t/c, s/c, or nos. i want her to have a serious lope
when i crank her. but we will see what happens.
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